Talmud su I Cronache 12:78

How many form a camp? Rebbi Ḥananiah said, one hundred. Gideon came with the hundred men who were with him to the border of the camp³⁰⁰Jud. 7:19.. Rebbi Abuna asked, if it had said, “the camp of a hundred men who were with him” it would be acceptable³⁰¹Since the camp was the enemy’s the quote does not prove anything.. Rebbi Joḥanan said, ten: David’s servants came and spoke to Nabal³⁰²1S. 25:9. It had been stated in v. 5 that they were ten., etc. What means and they rested³⁰²1S. 25:9. It had been stated in v. 5 that they were ten.? Rebbi Justus bar Shune said, they made a camp. Rebbi Jehudah ben Pazi said, ten: Until the camp was large like God’s camp³⁰³1Chr. 12:22.. How many are “God’s camp”? Ten³⁰⁴The source of this statement is unknown. Rashba col. 124, who quotes this statement, does not comment on it.. It was stated in the name of Rebbi Jehudah: 12’000 who are marching off as camp of Israel in a war of choice are permitted to rob moist wood but are forbidden to rob dry wood. Those who march out in a war of obligation are permitted to rob both dry and moist wood³⁰⁵Details of the statement in Mishnah 10. The Babli disagrees about the kind of wood, 17a, Tosephta 2:6.
The source of the number 12’000 is unknown. In Midrash Shemuel (ed. Buber 23(9)) the quote is “12’000 like the camp of Midyan.” This cannot be correct since the escapees from Gideon’s attack were about 15’000 (Jud. 8:10). Our text is confirmed by R. Ḥananel (ad 17a).. Rebbi Daniel the son of Rav Qatina in the name of Rav Ḥuna: If they were made into bundles it is forbidden. So far if it was not close to a forest; even if it was close to a forest. So far if it was not close to a spring; even if it was close to a spring. ³⁰⁶This refers to the statement in Mishnah 10 that in a camp one is not liable for demay. It is specified that food delivered to the camp is not liable even in a town but food acquired in town remains liable even if taken out to camp. If they brought it with them to a town, they already are freed from liability. What they took out with them from a town already is liable for demay. Rebbi Yose in the name of Rebbi Abbahu, Rebbi Ḥizqiah said in the name of Rebbi Jehudah ben Pazi: Demay was put in order or not in order³⁰⁷Cf. Šabbat 2, Note 238..